Alien Skin said:
Hi Charley, thx for the ideas. Actually, I'm having a look at Tube Toolbox. With regards to sending auto messages as you suggest, do you use a variety of message alterneratives, 10 - 15, as they recommend in order for Youtube to not block your messages?
This is just a quick note to say thanks for being my YouTube friend. I really do appreciate it!
Quite a few of my YT friends have done this already, but I wanted to make SURE that you had the opportunity to download the featured song on my channel. It's a different version than the one on my CD, but it features a really sweet solo by my keyboardist friend Wally Minko (a Jean Luc Ponty sideman). Here's the link for my YouTube friends: http://www.charleylanger.net/youtube/
The album has been getting some nice press. Here are a few quotes from the media: "...solid, well-crafted musicianship on every track ...wonderfully diverse, ranging from smooth and contemporary to straight-up and funky... stunning... guaranteed listening pleasure!"
Hope you dig it! Charley
Again...you can set this up so that it's automated. If I had to send notes by hand, I would go nuts. It's pretty much "set and forget" like advertizing, but it's working well for me. That's my experience anyway. Could be my genre (smooth jazz).
Charley Langer said:
John Oszajca said:
Hey Charley,
That's awesome if you're getting results and I have no problem with it for you if it's working. I used to do a lot of that kind of stuff when I first started online but I've come to look at it as a short cut of sorts. I personally like search engine traffic or paid advertising the best, because it's so much more targeted. But like I said, if you're getting conversions then great.
When I messed with it years ago I saw poor results, but maybe I'll need to re-examine it. Keep doing what ever is working, as long as it's legal 🙂
What I do is followup with a message after they add me. Something like this:
This is just a quick note to say thanks for being my YouTube friend. I really do appreciate it!
Quite a few of my YT friends have done this already, but I wanted to make SURE that you had the opportunity to download the featured song on my channel. It's a different version than the one on my CD, but it features a really sweet solo by my keyboardist friend Wally Minko (a Jean Luc Ponty sideman). Here's the link for my YouTube friends: http://www.charleylanger.net/youtube/
The album has been getting some nice press. Here are a few quotes from the media: "...solid, well-crafted musicianship on every track ...wonderfully diverse, ranging from smooth and contemporary to straight-up and funky... stunning... guaranteed listening pleasure!"
Hope you dig it! Charley
Again...you can set this up so that it's automated. If I had to send notes by hand, I would go nuts. It's pretty much "set and forget" like advertizing, but it's working well for me. That's my experience anyway. Could be my genre (smooth jazz).
Charley Langer said:
John Oszajca said:
Hey Charley,
That's awesome if you're getting results and I have no problem with it for you if it's working. I used to do a lot of that kind of stuff when I first started online but I've come to look at it as a short cut of sorts. I personally like search engine traffic or paid advertising the best, because it's so much more targeted. But like I said, if you're getting conversions then great.
When I messed with it years ago I saw poor results, but maybe I'll need to re-examine it. Keep doing what ever is working, as long as it's legal 🙂
What I do is followup with a message after they add me. Something like this:
This is just a quick note to say thanks for being my YouTube friend. I really do appreciate it!
Quite a few of my YT friends have done this already, but I wanted to make SURE that you had the opportunity to download the featured song on my channel. It's a different version than the one on my CD, but it features a really sweet solo by my keyboardist friend Wally Minko (a Jean Luc Ponty sideman). Here's the link for my YouTube friends: http://www.charleylanger.net/youtube/
The album has been getting some nice press. Here are a few quotes from the media: "...solid, well-crafted musicianship on every track ...wonderfully diverse, ranging from smooth and contemporary to straight-up and funky... stunning... guaranteed listening pleasure!"
Hope you dig it! Charley
Again...you can set this up so that it's automated. If I had to send notes by hand, I would go nuts. It's pretty much "set and forget" like advertizing, but it's working well for me. That's my experience anyway. Could be my genre (smooth jazz).
Thanks for the ideas Charley.
One thing I'd like to ask, as I've just started with Tube Toolbox, on your recommendation is, in regards to the auto messaging of newly acquired friends:
Are you using the suggested 10 - 15 alternative messages, as advised by Toolbox in order for YT not to freeze the repetitive messages? Reading their guidelines, I can't see how one can significantly reword a message that amount of times.
Cheers,
George
Alien Skin said:
Thanks for the ideas Charley.
One thing I'd like to ask, as I've just started with Tube Toolbox, on your recommendation is, in regards to the auto messaging of newly acquired friends:
Are you using the suggested 10 - 15 alternative messages, as advised by Toolbox in order for YT not to freeze the repetitive messages? Reading their guidelines, I can't see how one can significantly reword a message that amount of times.
Cheers,
George
Hi George,
Yes, I do have 15 alternative messages. I made my messages 3 short paragraphs: intro, call to action, and closing. When you have a couple sentences in each paragraph, you can make them significantly different without too much trouble. It takes a bit of thinking and creativity.
Intro: Thank them for being your youtube friend. Say what you like about the youtube community. Tell them what a priviledge it is to be able to share your art. All those things can be said in different ways.
Call to action: Tell them a lot of your friends have picked up your single at ___. Tell them you don't want them to miss it -- so they should get it while you can at: ___. It's not about making a buck -- it's just such a freaking cool song that is available for a limited time here: ___. Etc.
Closing: Industry quotes about your music. Thanks again. Hope the weather is better there than here. The link is going away in a few days. Etc.
I think you get it.
Thanks Charley, with a little work, it all makes sense 🙂
Thank you Charley, sounds like a good strategy. 1 question though: are you paying the 20 dollars a month for Tube Toolbox? Or did you find a full version somewhere...
Cheers,
Jasper
I paid for the full subscription. No monthly fees. I forget what it's called, but it has more than paid for itself.
Charley Langer said:
I took a closer look at this month, and it's about the same; i.e., I'm getting about 6 subscribers per day from that video on that channel. Considering that I can duplicate that, I think that's pretty decent.
Hey George, I just saw your PM. You have mail. Sorry about the slow response. I wasn't looking for PMs. My bad!
What is the reason for requesting them as friends and getting them as subscribers first? Is sending them messages directly too spammy? I think I'm answering my own question here, actually. Thanks, Jason
Jason,
Getting people as a subscriber first is akin to getting someone to follow you on twitter or getting someone to opt-in to your squeeze page.
Basically it is giving you permission to enter into a dialog and share without being spammy. So yes, I think you may have answered your own question 🙂
-Steve
Charley can answer this better but I thought it was because you had some kind of ability to send them a message if your accounts were linked that you didn't otherwise... Maybe I'm wrong on that. I'm sure Charley will pipe in.
With the twitter strategy you are following them because as a general courtesy a certain percentage of people follow you back. When they follow you back the autoresponder function kicks in and sends them a message. Maybe it's the same with Youtube and Tube Toolbox?
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Does anyone have a good grasp on how often to upload new videos to youtube for seo according to youtube's algorithm?
Brandon,
I don't think there is a hard and fast rule as far as how frequently you upload. Although generally speaking search engines do like frequently updated sites/ channels.
The important thing for SEO purposes is relevance. Good use of keywords and content that is relevant to those keywords is really where you get your SEO juice. Use the keywords in the title and the description without being spammy or doing a bait and switch and you should do quite well..
-Steve
Brandon Lepere said:
Does anyone have a good grasp on how often to upload new videos to youtube for seo according to youtube's algorithm?
Yeah, like Steve said, I can't imagine the frequency being relevant for SEO, other than to say that an active account might get favored more than a non active one. But even then, I don't know how relevant that would be. Most important things are keywords and backlinks.
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Ok, what about doing cover songs to reach potential fans? I am planning on doing exactly
this because people looking for songs that I can cover would relate to my originals. But when
you search on the song title of a well-known song, you get 8,000 results. How can one
possibly rank or get found in that haystack?
Tim Curry said:
Ok, what about doing cover songs to reach potential fans? I am planning on doing exactly
this because people looking for songs that I can cover would relate to my originals. But when
you search on the song title of a well-known song, you get 8,000 results. How can one
possibly rank or get found in that haystack?
Cover songs on youtube is a great strategy for getting traffic. Like anything SEO related, having keyword placement in your title, description, and tags, and then building backlinks to the video itself, should help you. But there are also some other relevant things in youtube such as ratings, comments, view count, social media sharing, etc.
What I would do is just throw up a web cam and try and record as many covers as possible. Play the numbers. Then when you get a video with some traction that is getting a decent amount of views but is still not showing up early in Youtubes results (or Google's), I would go to fivverr and spend a few bucks getting the view count up, getting positive reviews and comments,a nd getting people to share it. You could probably do quite a lot for only 3 gigs ($15). You might also go to fivver and search "senuke". Sort by relevance and have someone build a boat load of backlinks to your video.
FYI, I would proceed with caution before using senuke to build links to your own site. Simply because it's a lot of links to come out of nowhere and with a non-authority site it might look unnatural. But for youtube it should be fine.
Also, full disclosure, that's just what I would do (and will do). I haven't actually done this yet.
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