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December 18, 2018
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Hey John and the MMM support team. Alright so I`m having trouble with my marketing campaign. Seems to be a message to marketing mismatch. I started by targeting Wilco audience and our ads are performing well but we only got 3 subscribers out of 333 visitors to our squeeze page. The ads ran a $0.31 CPC.  

I used John`s copy-writing shortcuts approach from CFM so there shouldn't be a message mismatch here. Also having trouble figuring out exactly what our music is. It's got blues, outlaw, country, and rock n roll in it.

Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/channe.....W_LDwRI8HQ

If you could take a listen to that out and see what you think it would be a big big help. We`re all scratching our heads on what to call it.Laugh 

December 18, 2018
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Hi Nicholas,

If you have had 333 visitors with only 3 subscribers then it definitely does not sound like the ad is going well.

I took a quick listen to a few songs and your stuff sound much more like rootsy blues to e than alt country.

Can you share the link to your squeeze page?

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December 19, 2018
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Here's the link to the squeeze page:

http://www.johnyriley.com/freedownload/

 

We used the same headline on our ads to keep everything consistent.

December 19, 2018
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Thanks, while I think there are some really good elements here, I also think it's not as clear as it needs to be.

The strengths as I see them, is that the image is provocative, and the headline has some really interesting texture to it.

The weaknesses for me, are:

1. The headline doesn't actually say what it is. It still leaves me very unclear. Maybe people click because they like the imagery and texture, but don't sign up because the squeeze page doesn't clarify enough? At no time do I learn what kind of music you actually make.

2. I think the supportive paragraph structure is slightly off. I recommend 4 paragraphs. 1, tell them who you are and what you've done. 2. Tell them what the music sounds like. 3. Tell them what you're giving away. 4. Tell them what to do next.

3. I think there are some minor design elements that could be improved. The red in teh headline nd arrow are quite bright while the button is dark. I would go fro the html color code #cc0000, it's the same color as the button and is a bit less bright and in your face.

Any of that resonate?

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December 20, 2018
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Thanks John and yes that makes sense. I'll change the headline and paragraph structure, adding in more details about the music keeping with the structure from MMM. I didn't realize I had gone off template as far as the structure goes. I'll post an update after I make those changes.

About the design part - as far as I can see there's no way to customize the arrow color. There's a few options to choose from but no way to customize it. I went with the standard option you recommended in MMM.

 

So as far as my targeting goes I can just leave that for now and see what happens after I make some changes to the squeeze page?

 

I think there might be a glitch on the site because the arrow is the default red on all the other pages except my squeeze page. I'll keep checking that and see if it updates later because this has happened before. 

December 21, 2018
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Hi Nicholas,

Steve here.  As long as the ad numbers themselves look good, then yes, leave the targeting as is and look into the squeeze page.  Sorry I'm just catching the tail end of this, so I'm not sure what you may or may not have mentioned about numbers.

 

As far as customizing the arrow color.  What you need to do is download one of the colored arrow images (either long or short, whichever you prefer to use).  Then you'd edit it to be whichever color you want in an image editor.  Then you'd want to name it exactly the same name.

Then you'd want to connect to your site via FTP client.  This way you can navigate into the folder in the theme for the arrows, and replace the existing arrow with your customized one.  The only issue here is that you'd have to replace it again the next time you update the theme.

For the issue with your squeeze page arrow displaying the wrong color, you might be overlooking the option to change the squeeze pipe arrows independently from the regular sidebar arrows.  Check the customization options for the Squeeze Pipe arrow color.

December 23, 2018
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Cool. The ads were running cheap and were bringing people in. Just needed to get that squeeze page converting better.

 

Also I went in to the editor for the squeeze page and tried to change the arrow color.. I can't change the arrow at all, size, or color (like it doesn't update). And to clarify I went to main sidebar in customization for the squeeze page. Tried taking it out completely and it's still displaying in the bright red. I can edit the side bar on every other page but the squeeze page.

Could it be something with the code or maybe a plugin/widget? 

Unless I'm completely missing something here.. 

December 27, 2018
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Hi Nicholas,

Steve here.  Yes, you are missing something.  The sidebar arrow options are completely separate from the squeeze page arrow options.

You need to go to "Appearance >> Customize >> Squeeze Pipe Options" to change the arrow for squeeze pages.

Let us know if we can ever help with anything else.

January 15, 2019
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Hey Nicholas, this got marked as read somehow and I never saw it until just coming across it now.

Assuming yo have MMM 4.0, I show you how to do what Steve is describing in the "customizing your site" bonus lesson in the MMM members area. 

And the reason you see a different arrow on the squeeze page vs the other pages of the site is because the primary site has different settings from the squeeze page. That is also covered in the course.

Let me know if you're still having trouble.

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January 18, 2019
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Thanks John, we got it sorted out. Had to go to the squeeze page options like you said. 

I haven't watched the bonus videos yet but I will check them out. Been busy with the squeeze page rewrite and blog posts which is our weak points. After the squeeze page rewrite we ran an ad and still didn't get the sign ups we wanted so it still needs some work.

Here's what I've got so far: http://www.johnyriley.com/freemusic/

The ads ran for two days at $20/day and we got 1 sign up from 170 page visits. Still targeting WILCO fans. 

 

Is the squeeze page the issue here or should we try another audience?

January 23, 2019
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Hi Nicholas,

Steve here, from support.  John has been traveling and got delayed a bit, so I wanted to make sure you got a reply.

 

I'm not seeing anything glaring about the squeeze page, but I also don't have enough info to judge whether you should switching up the audience yet either.

What is the click through rate and relevance score on your ad with this audience?

 

Let me know and I'll try to help.

January 23, 2019
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Hey Steve, thanks for chiming in. We only got 5 subs and it seems like the ads are doing good so I'm starting to think it might be the wrong audience. The headline on the ad is the same as the squeeze page as to stay consistent. 

 

Here's the ads info:

Daily Budget 20 

Results 421

Reach 7,848

Impressions 11,271

CPC 0.25

Spent 104.25
 
Relevance score 8
 
 
 
 
January 28, 2019
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Hey Nicholas,

Sorry for the slow response. I've been traveling for the last week and have been away from my computer. Back at the desk now.

It's still a bit hard to say without more data. Your relevancy score is pretty decent at 8 so that's a good indicator, but there can be situations where the ad is speaking to your target audience but your squeeze page is not. It can also be things like ad placement or demographic settings, etc.

I would always try targeting at least three different audiences (in three different ad sets) to begin with as some audiences just don't convert. You want to rule that out before trying to fix the squeeze page. 

Can you also post a screen shot of your ad? Perhaps I can spot a disconnect.

And have you run a campaign breakdown to see what segment is performing best?

I have more thoughts about the squeeze page but want to see the ad first.

And this might sound silly... But are you sure you targeted Wilco (the band), and not just Wilco - as in the city? It's an easy mistake to make. There isn't a "band" option but there is "Wilco (the album).

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January 29, 2019
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Hey John, no worries and I appreciate you taking the time to help us out. 

I'll run an ad set for three different audiences like you suggested. I'm not real clear on who to target exactly since there's not many bands with a similar sound/style. Any suggestions would be helpful if you can think of anything?

Yes I ran a breakdown of the ad. The ads perform best with men 45-64 so that's who we are targeting. 

As for the target audience we just went with wilco and wilco (the album). 

Here's the screen shot of the ad hopefully you can read it.  Let me know if you want to see a screen shot of the ad set.

 

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Thanks for the help John is greatly appreciated! 

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February 4, 2019
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Hey Nicholas,

I owe you another apology for such a slow reply. I'm in New Zealand where it has been the final week of the big summer holiday here and I've had a lot of family responsibilities that have thrown me behind. But now finally back to work and you shouldn't see these kinds of slow replies in the future.

Everything looks pretty decent, so it's hard to pinpoint exactly what the issue is without getting in there and testing, but I can spot a few possibilities...

Your brand really comes off as blues to me based on your image, and the general vibe of your copy. But Wilco is not a blues act, so there could be a disconnect there.

By targeting Wilco, you may also be inadvertently targeting people that simply have a connection to the town. I would always separate out targeting options instead of combining them. When I target Wilco I only target Wilco (the album).

You also have Alt Country Fan? as your headline, which again, seems like a slight disconnect for me personally because I really get a blues vibe from what I see on your squeeze page.

I also think that your headline could do more to project your unique selling proposition. Your headline is descriptive and it tells me that you make roots music that crosses a few genres, but it doesn't do a lot to convince me that you are special and unique, or compel me to sign up. If anything, mentioning all of those genres makes me less clear about what you do. You really want to write a headline that speaks directly to the conscious passions and interests of your target audience. if your target audience is Wilco then they like alternative country. You come off as having more sole than that. But I'm basing that largely on the image I see.

But the biggest issue I see is that you just need to test more things. When starting a campaign I always start with at least three different ad sets, each one targeting a unique audience. Some audiences just don't convert.

Let me know if I can help with anything else.

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